Uncle Sam Wants YOU For American Science
Chris Mooney and Sheril Kirshenbaum Discuss Their New Book, Unscientific America
SOURCE: Basic Books
Science matters, and so does science communication, argue the coauthors. And while advocacy and science are not always easy bedfellows, groups with antiscientific agendas put on awfully good briefings on Capitol Hill.Podcast: Play in new window | Download
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Scientists, journalists, and politicians must each share a little blame for America’s widespread scientific illiteracy, according to Chris Mooney and Sheril Kirshenbaum, coauthors of Unscientific America: How Scientific Illiteracy Threatens Our Future. But because science is crucial to grappling with critical public policy issues in health, energy, and national security, researchers will have to add communication tools to their repertoire and we’ll have to figure out how to replace the vanishing sources of scientific journalism.
Mooney, a Contributing Editor to Science Progress who will be a Knight Science Journalism Fellow at MIT for the next academic year, and Kirshenbaum, a marine biologist at Duke University, advocate for a greater presence of science in the national dialogue in their new book. The authors joined Science Progress for a podcast discussion last week. No only should scientists should hone better communication skills to convey their messages, politicians should be more willing to learn the importance of science to public policy, and journalists should pay more attention to science policy news, the authors said. (To listen to the podcast of our conversation, see the audio player in the sidebar, download the mp3, or subscribe via iTunes.)
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“I think a lot of scientists are very nervous to get involved, particularly in the political arena because they don’t want to ruffle any feathers. They just want to keep doing their research in the lab, and not necessarily have to go talk about it and lobby for money,” Kirshenbaum said. This is a problem because “it all trickles down to research dollars,” she explained.
Getting important groups to listen to significant science is difficult but important, Mooney added. Legislators are often reluctant to hear from scientists who show up at their offices even for a minute, “especially when the science is hard.”
Moreover, scientific outfits sometimes make the mistake of lobbying staffers and members of Congress without coordination, and “with different messages about the same issue,” Kirshenbaum, a former congressional staffer, said. On the other hand, the “pseudoscience side is very well organized, very well funded, and often has extremely articulate speakers with PhDs.”
“They know how to put on a good briefing. They know how to make people laugh; they serve food,” she explained, “And they have a unified message so a lot of the really valuable stuff that should be making it’s way to the Hill gets lost in all of the noise.” Lobbyists with pseudoscientific agendas may work to discredit the threat of climate change or ban vaccines, she said.
Moreover, for important research that addresses 21st-century challenges to get necessary funding, “We’re going to have to get involved on the Hill and in discussions well beyond Washington, D.C.,” she said.
Both authors worked to get these issues on center stage during last year’s presidential election by helping found Science Debate 2008, an initiative to get the presidential candidates to talk about their science policy positions on national television.
Although Science Debate 2008’s supporters—which included Nobel laureates, government leaders, and universities—did not achieve their ultimate goal, they still made a lot of progress, according to Mooney. The effort was important, he said, because of two words: “science matters.” Science matters to policy and the economy, he said, and given that it is germane to what politicians do, “they should talk about it publicly and often.”
Kirshenbaum emphasized that the project galvanized the scientific establishment. The initiative, now simply called “Science Debate” is hoping to “push towards the next presidential election” and get people talking about science issues on the local level, she said. The ultimate goal is to move science from its “special interest status” into our “common culture,” she explained.
We need to employ scientists in more communication outlets so they can explain why science matters to the public, Mooney said. Cultivating more of those communicators will provide “a unique asset because they’re the small part of the public that not only knows why science matters, but is deeply engaged and has the technical ability” to correctly explain the science. And that, he would argue, is good for the United States.
Interview produced by Andrew Plemmons Pratt, managing editor for Science Progress, and Vivian Cheng, intern with Science Progress.
Comments on this article



I would like to read your new book. I have been wondering when this would come up again. It was big about 27-30 years ago hence the additional 5-10 days of additional school instruction that has been added to the school year to pare down the achievement gap between American kids and those of other nations. Yet most of the spelling Bee(National) and science fairs(Intel Prizes)have been awarded to “recent” Americans from various foreign lands. The last Great science push was the Red Scare of the Sputnik launch in the late 50’s
I mince that SIlicon Valley in my state of Californai can’t even get all the workers it needs despit Stanford ,UCBerkeley, SJ State and other smaller private universities
I am concern that the lastest science push is much more condescending to those of Faith than the event from the 50’s. I beleive you can see what that standpoint looks like if you pick up a Scientific American and see how it has lost its way. It seems to be too interested in giving info to counter your friends “Creation Science” beliefs than it is in conveying the passion of science. If we don’t repect each other’s views than nothing positive will happen.
John Smith
August 21st, 2009 at 8:55 pmFresno
Yes, you’r RIGHT ON!
August 25th, 2009 at 8:38 pmWithout a technical edge we would have to compete in price, against Asian salaries and that would be the end.
Where are the Patriotic Conservatives in all this?
Under the Buch Admin., the number of technical visas increased to over 100,000 a year.
Under the Buch Admin., the number of technical visas increased to over 100,000 a year (worth repeating, maybe?
This has been going on for years.
Industry is tired of telling educators Primary school students cannot read and write, high school students do not know Algebra or Physics.
College students cannot understand advanced Calculus nor program such equations in a Fortran, C or C++.
Cheap solution: Bring the best graduates from outside the US and forget about American college graduates.
You ought not believe this but our best universities are willing to give scholarships to foreign students unable to pass the entrance exams in the technical universities in their country.
It does not take a genius to predict what happens if industry stop complaining and supporting our Universities.
It does not take a genius to predict what happens if industry stop hiring American scientists.
Even our universities (have to) hire foreign teachers for advanced technical courses and they are eminently qualified and I know that is the truth.
How big is the problem? Increasing Grad School teacher salaries is the last priority.
But, how can you hire the best teachers that speak English?
I don’t know.
Hello, I am interested in the new book “UnscientificAmerica” by Chris Mooney and Sheril Kirshenbaum and could review it in a newspaper where I regularly contribute.
I am based in Argentina, is there any chance you could send me a copy..?
Thank you, AM
October 25th, 2009 at 11:42 pm