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	<title>Comments on: Restart the Congressional Office of Technology Assessment</title>
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		<title>By: Tom Nichols</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2009/03/restart-ota/comment-page-1/#comment-4761</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Nichols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We agree with re-opening the OTA Congress needs unbiased opinion now more than ever as this country needs to move beyond the Bush era of faith based science, and needs to embrace fact based science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We agree with re-opening the OTA Congress needs unbiased opinion now more than ever as this country needs to move beyond the Bush era of faith based science, and needs to embrace fact based science.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael F. Sarabia</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2009/03/restart-ota/comment-page-1/#comment-4751</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael F. Sarabia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as fast as I thought a &quot;key&quot; reason for bringing OTA to life, the next paragraph would outline that key with overwhelming force. After a few, I realize that this article is so well written, so comprehensive, I couldn&#039;t add to it, not even a comma.
But, I hope I may be allowed to a few examples from that place where the rubber meets the asphalt oil, the grime and dirty, and ugly reality, which, I am sure are well known, therefore minor details are omitted.

1. When the need to continue exploding nuclear bombs to prove they would work (don&#039;t laugh, no way they can explode twice, I know) the arguments became partisan, on one side, and on the other side were the scientists. But, the partisans won. A bad day in America. 
A related issue of controlled fusion to &quot;verify&quot; bombs was complex enough to fool non-thinking partisans -and those that knew better, wisely, kept quiet. Members of Congress has not access to a reputable scientist that was not accused of bias, on the basis of his (no her, in this case) conclusion. 
Were wrong reasons used to arrive at the right conclusion? This points at the key to the problem.

2. When the argument for the Nuclear powered or the Supersonic bomber came up, their costs drove leaders to the right solution: Not needed, at that risk and cost.

3. The Lunar Mission had full support of the nation and was our best effort but, I do not recall any OTA Analysis Report. The President and the people thought it good and, if I may add my tiny voice, I did too! 
But, the decision to Return to the Moon and the Manned Trip to Mars have not had the benefit of a proper OTA analysis or public consideration. The President simply decided, told NASA and the contractors made sure key votes were secured, not the best way to justify Space Programs.

4. Did we need all the different ICBMs in the Cold War? Probably not but, for the sake of security, we bought them. OTA probably had no voice on the matter, the military-industrial complex decided life in the planet was at risk. But now, when so many choices exist on what to do next about Global Warming, what proportion of the total funds should be dedicated for each different technology? 
What are the costs, over 50 years, of each approach? 
How expensive is maintenance of Windmill Electric power? 
I read that prices dropped from over 37 Cents per Kilowatt to less than 4 Cents, in long term contracts.

5. What are the risks and cost of Geothermal power? Some years ago oil drills used to pump high pressure water into oil fields in Armenia and Colorado were determined to cause earthquakes. I have not seen any studies on that, should they be banned? California has expanded the use of Geothermal energy from the Geysers, about 50 miles from San Francisco, will geologists look into that? How? 
One could conclude geothermal is the cleanest and cheapest way to produce energy, except I never read if the steam had any sulfur which would speed up Global Warming or the cost of a Big Earthquake. 

6. I, and millions, have seen ads from &quot;Clean, Natural Gas&quot; to replace oil. The ads are everywhere but, &quot;they&quot; never mention that C4H8 has Carbon (C), like oil, and &quot;Natural&quot; Gas is found in oil fields. Of course, you and I do not wonder why they never refer to &quot;NATURAL Oil&quot;? &quot;Snake Oil&quot;?

7. In the field of medicine, surely, introducing computer technology will lead to competing designs and the issue will be which one is better, more reliable and cost effective -before it is build?
This is not a simple matter, OTS could do an impartial analysis. In California, there was an attempt (or two) to put license plate numbers in a data base for easy recall. One effort, used over $25 Million and the result was useless and scrapped. Must we repeat the same for every hospital in every state?

The list seems endless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as fast as I thought a &#8220;key&#8221; reason for bringing OTA to life, the next paragraph would outline that key with overwhelming force. After a few, I realize that this article is so well written, so comprehensive, I couldn&#8217;t add to it, not even a comma.<br />
But, I hope I may be allowed to a few examples from that place where the rubber meets the asphalt oil, the grime and dirty, and ugly reality, which, I am sure are well known, therefore minor details are omitted.</p>
<p>1. When the need to continue exploding nuclear bombs to prove they would work (don&#8217;t laugh, no way they can explode twice, I know) the arguments became partisan, on one side, and on the other side were the scientists. But, the partisans won. A bad day in America.<br />
A related issue of controlled fusion to &#8220;verify&#8221; bombs was complex enough to fool non-thinking partisans -and those that knew better, wisely, kept quiet. Members of Congress has not access to a reputable scientist that was not accused of bias, on the basis of his (no her, in this case) conclusion.<br />
Were wrong reasons used to arrive at the right conclusion? This points at the key to the problem.</p>
<p>2. When the argument for the Nuclear powered or the Supersonic bomber came up, their costs drove leaders to the right solution: Not needed, at that risk and cost.</p>
<p>3. The Lunar Mission had full support of the nation and was our best effort but, I do not recall any OTA Analysis Report. The President and the people thought it good and, if I may add my tiny voice, I did too!<br />
But, the decision to Return to the Moon and the Manned Trip to Mars have not had the benefit of a proper OTA analysis or public consideration. The President simply decided, told NASA and the contractors made sure key votes were secured, not the best way to justify Space Programs.</p>
<p>4. Did we need all the different ICBMs in the Cold War? Probably not but, for the sake of security, we bought them. OTA probably had no voice on the matter, the military-industrial complex decided life in the planet was at risk. But now, when so many choices exist on what to do next about Global Warming, what proportion of the total funds should be dedicated for each different technology?<br />
What are the costs, over 50 years, of each approach?<br />
How expensive is maintenance of Windmill Electric power?<br />
I read that prices dropped from over 37 Cents per Kilowatt to less than 4 Cents, in long term contracts.</p>
<p>5. What are the risks and cost of Geothermal power? Some years ago oil drills used to pump high pressure water into oil fields in Armenia and Colorado were determined to cause earthquakes. I have not seen any studies on that, should they be banned? California has expanded the use of Geothermal energy from the Geysers, about 50 miles from San Francisco, will geologists look into that? How?<br />
One could conclude geothermal is the cleanest and cheapest way to produce energy, except I never read if the steam had any sulfur which would speed up Global Warming or the cost of a Big Earthquake. </p>
<p>6. I, and millions, have seen ads from &#8220;Clean, Natural Gas&#8221; to replace oil. The ads are everywhere but, &#8220;they&#8221; never mention that C4H8 has Carbon (C), like oil, and &#8220;Natural&#8221; Gas is found in oil fields. Of course, you and I do not wonder why they never refer to &#8220;NATURAL Oil&#8221;? &#8220;Snake Oil&#8221;?</p>
<p>7. In the field of medicine, surely, introducing computer technology will lead to competing designs and the issue will be which one is better, more reliable and cost effective -before it is build?<br />
This is not a simple matter, OTS could do an impartial analysis. In California, there was an attempt (or two) to put license plate numbers in a data base for easy recall. One effort, used over $25 Million and the result was useless and scrapped. Must we repeat the same for every hospital in every state?</p>
<p>The list seems endless.</p>
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		<title>By: David L. Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2009/03/restart-ota/comment-page-1/#comment-4750</link>
		<dc:creator>David L. Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This verey interesting.
  I 1995 a group had developed a machine that converted
  coal into crude oil.  OTA was contacted as were many
  polititions.  It seems that the OTA and the technology
  were shot down together.  The DOE research did not want
  anything to do with the idea. No body would talk about it.
  
  It is easy to make coal to liquid to clean burning gases.

  Who wants a solution?   Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This verey interesting.<br />
  I 1995 a group had developed a machine that converted<br />
  coal into crude oil.  OTA was contacted as were many<br />
  polititions.  It seems that the OTA and the technology<br />
  were shot down together.  The DOE research did not want<br />
  anything to do with the idea. No body would talk about it.</p>
<p>  It is easy to make coal to liquid to clean burning gases.</p>
<p>  Who wants a solution?   Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene Cavalier</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2009/03/restart-ota/comment-page-1/#comment-4743</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene Cavalier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrific analysis and update on the current-state-of-affairs. It&#039;s certainly time to push &quot;play&quot; for the OTA. I&#039;d like to add that the OTA can do a world of good for  Congress, science, the public and the media by creating opportunities for bilateral dicussions with the public/media on key science policy matters (much like Tech Assessment Agencies are doing, internationally). This type of &quot;citizen input&quot; was part of the original mission of the OTA; no legislative language would need to be changed. Perhaps it was too timely or costly to execute in the 80s-90s but in this day and age, as demonstrated by President Obama and his Executive Branch, the tools (internet, citizen juries, consensus conferences, etc)  and desire from the public are in place for Congress to work through the OTA to enlighten and involve the public and the media in major science policy discussions. 

There&#039;s a Facebook group discussing this very topic now. It&#039;s open to anyone. Feel free to weigh in. Link to the online petition to support the reopening of an &quot;OTA with citizen input.&quot;

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=39385247687&amp;ref=ts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific analysis and update on the current-state-of-affairs. It&#8217;s certainly time to push &#8220;play&#8221; for the OTA. I&#8217;d like to add that the OTA can do a world of good for  Congress, science, the public and the media by creating opportunities for bilateral dicussions with the public/media on key science policy matters (much like Tech Assessment Agencies are doing, internationally). This type of &#8220;citizen input&#8221; was part of the original mission of the OTA; no legislative language would need to be changed. Perhaps it was too timely or costly to execute in the 80s-90s but in this day and age, as demonstrated by President Obama and his Executive Branch, the tools (internet, citizen juries, consensus conferences, etc)  and desire from the public are in place for Congress to work through the OTA to enlighten and involve the public and the media in major science policy discussions. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a Facebook group discussing this very topic now. It&#8217;s open to anyone. Feel free to weigh in. Link to the online petition to support the reopening of an &#8220;OTA with citizen input.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=39385247687&amp;ref=ts" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=39385247687&amp;ref=ts</a></p>
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