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		<title>By: Annec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 2009 Manhattan Project

Gas emissions have much more to do with human health issues here in the United States than with Global Warming. Reading the reviews and bloggs, I am reminded of my youth and of the Dickey Damn Project. When I mentioned this to my grand-father, he told me, ‘that gasoline was cheap, they pump it out of the ground like water.’ I forget just what electrical company bought Central Maine Power, but such wonderful hallucinations as tidal electricity has to be economical feasible. 

President Bush, before 9-11, wished to have the price of oil increased to the point of making nuclear energy and solar energy much more in demand. Again, as a boy, I asked about the steel showing itself just beneath the tar, and it was explained to me that trolley cars once went from here to there. When older, I spent years in Occupied Japan, the trains came by every 15 minutes, but I bought a Cushman scooter.

Before I make my ‘Ancient Bet’ I would like to remind you (the reader) that I am a medical biologist, and that I worked forty plus years as a laboratory monkey. In college we were required to take one or two ’humanities’ and just alike, the humanities major was required to take Botany and Zoology: Bless them. As a ‘Global Warming Denier’              I suggest that we little people on earth here, have no influence upon climate. The humanities major doesn’t fathom how the planet cleans itself (regulated by physics).

In my book ‘An Analog from Adam to Nero’ I conclude Chapter III, with climate change bringing  an end to an organized society, the Age of the Patriarchs  (c. 2000-1700 B.C.).  All of this gives us to ponder, will such events happen again?  And this is what occurred.

I offer for consideration that Abraham was given lands in 2465 B.C. (Aram, Canaan, and the Philistine Plain-part of Egypt) as a negotiation plan with Ush by the god-king of Mari. In Egypt, the lands of Palestine and Syria began to be called Retenu. His majesty made war on the desert people, and the entrusted mighty hunter of the campaign, ‘was sent five times to ravage the lands of Retenu’ (2350 B.C.).

After: The Generations of Seth were cast into chaos. A shift in the Gulf Stream spent Europe in ice and for 200 years The World of the Patriarchs were left barren and dry.   The Euphrates was not visited by the Thunder god any longer and in Egypt the Nile never flooded. The Nile Delta dried up and vanished, and the temple priest recorded, ‘that the adults ate their children.’ They do not mention that they, themselves, plundered the ancient tombs of the Pharaohs.

After 500 or 600 years in history we note that Hyksos struck Egypt and from 1720 B.C. until 1290 B.C. Lower Egypt was occupied by Greek Veekins and rulers of foreign lands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 2009 Manhattan Project</p>
<p>Gas emissions have much more to do with human health issues here in the United States than with Global Warming. Reading the reviews and bloggs, I am reminded of my youth and of the Dickey Damn Project. When I mentioned this to my grand-father, he told me, ‘that gasoline was cheap, they pump it out of the ground like water.’ I forget just what electrical company bought Central Maine Power, but such wonderful hallucinations as tidal electricity has to be economical feasible. </p>
<p>President Bush, before 9-11, wished to have the price of oil increased to the point of making nuclear energy and solar energy much more in demand. Again, as a boy, I asked about the steel showing itself just beneath the tar, and it was explained to me that trolley cars once went from here to there. When older, I spent years in Occupied Japan, the trains came by every 15 minutes, but I bought a Cushman scooter.</p>
<p>Before I make my ‘Ancient Bet’ I would like to remind you (the reader) that I am a medical biologist, and that I worked forty plus years as a laboratory monkey. In college we were required to take one or two ’humanities’ and just alike, the humanities major was required to take Botany and Zoology: Bless them. As a ‘Global Warming Denier’              I suggest that we little people on earth here, have no influence upon climate. The humanities major doesn’t fathom how the planet cleans itself (regulated by physics).</p>
<p>In my book ‘An Analog from Adam to Nero’ I conclude Chapter III, with climate change bringing  an end to an organized society, the Age of the Patriarchs  (c. 2000-1700 B.C.).  All of this gives us to ponder, will such events happen again?  And this is what occurred.</p>
<p>I offer for consideration that Abraham was given lands in 2465 B.C. (Aram, Canaan, and the Philistine Plain-part of Egypt) as a negotiation plan with Ush by the god-king of Mari. In Egypt, the lands of Palestine and Syria began to be called Retenu. His majesty made war on the desert people, and the entrusted mighty hunter of the campaign, ‘was sent five times to ravage the lands of Retenu’ (2350 B.C.).</p>
<p>After: The Generations of Seth were cast into chaos. A shift in the Gulf Stream spent Europe in ice and for 200 years The World of the Patriarchs were left barren and dry.   The Euphrates was not visited by the Thunder god any longer and in Egypt the Nile never flooded. The Nile Delta dried up and vanished, and the temple priest recorded, ‘that the adults ate their children.’ They do not mention that they, themselves, plundered the ancient tombs of the Pharaohs.</p>
<p>After 500 or 600 years in history we note that Hyksos struck Egypt and from 1720 B.C. until 1290 B.C. Lower Egypt was occupied by Greek Veekins and rulers of foreign lands.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/11/science-under-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-3660</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In an effort to combat climate change and to lower greenhouse gasses, President elect Obama should make the Trans-Global Highway a major policy directive in his administration.,    The project was proposed by Frank X. Didik, who also happens to be the found of the Electric Car Society, a number of years ago.   The Trans-Global Highway would physically link the continents of the world together utilizing existing roads, rail lines and through a series of under water tunnels.    The Trans-Global Highway would clearly lower transportation costs as well as reduce the huge amount of energy needed to transport products globally .   I also see the Trans Global highway as  a method to increase  international cooperation and better allocation of global resources, with minimal invasiveness of the environment,     It may well be the key infrastructure project that Mr. Obama has been seeking.   The full proposal can be read at www.TransGlobalHighway.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an effort to combat climate change and to lower greenhouse gasses, President elect Obama should make the Trans-Global Highway a major policy directive in his administration.,    The project was proposed by Frank X. Didik, who also happens to be the found of the Electric Car Society, a number of years ago.   The Trans-Global Highway would physically link the continents of the world together utilizing existing roads, rail lines and through a series of under water tunnels.    The Trans-Global Highway would clearly lower transportation costs as well as reduce the huge amount of energy needed to transport products globally .   I also see the Trans Global highway as  a method to increase  international cooperation and better allocation of global resources, with minimal invasiveness of the environment,     It may well be the key infrastructure project that Mr. Obama has been seeking.   The full proposal can be read at <a href="http://www.TransGlobalHighway.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.TransGlobalHighway.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: DD</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/11/science-under-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-3496</link>
		<dc:creator>DD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sure. He&#039;ll take the &quot;science&quot; he likes seriously-like the falsified data from NASA&#039;s Hansen without which the idiotic &quot;global warming&quot; hysteria would collapse on itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sure. He&#8217;ll take the &#8220;science&#8221; he likes seriously-like the falsified data from NASA&#8217;s Hansen without which the idiotic &#8220;global warming&#8221; hysteria would collapse on itself.</p>
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		<title>By: female model</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/11/science-under-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-3389</link>
		<dc:creator>female model</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>every president does what he thinks is best and not what actually is best or should be done. But I guess he actually can do that not like the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>every president does what he thinks is best and not what actually is best or should be done. But I guess he actually can do that not like the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/11/science-under-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-3387</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who believe there will be no more politicization of science is incredibly naive. There will be two differences between Obama and Bush on the control of science:
1. Obama&#039;s administration will push science to prove left wing issues, while Bush&#039;s administration pushed science to prove right wing issues;
2. It&#039;s possible that Obama&#039;s administration will be smoother and more public-relations savvy in their control over science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who believe there will be no more politicization of science is incredibly naive. There will be two differences between Obama and Bush on the control of science:<br />
1. Obama&#8217;s administration will push science to prove left wing issues, while Bush&#8217;s administration pushed science to prove right wing issues;<br />
2. It&#8217;s possible that Obama&#8217;s administration will be smoother and more public-relations savvy in their control over science.</p>
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		<title>By: BCL</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/11/science-under-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-3381</link>
		<dc:creator>BCL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is great!  More money taken from the tax payers and put into the pockets of scientists and engineers like me.  It&#039;s about time I started getting more $$ from the government.  Screw the rest of you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is great!  More money taken from the tax payers and put into the pockets of scientists and engineers like me.  It&#8217;s about time I started getting more $$ from the government.  Screw the rest of you!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Laird</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/11/science-under-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-3380</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Laird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am happy that you are happy.

I am a techie.  The truth is I deal in ones and zeroes...logic statements.  To infer all the things that were inferred above and attribute them to &quot;Change&quot; is rather startling to me.  The first statement put forward about Mr. Obama is that he was asked 14 questions and his campaign got 14 responses written for him by other people.  He then handed it off and went to kiss more babies.  If the idea you are putting forward is &quot;YES, but he is willing to reach out to advisors...&quot; OK.  But that was for answers to questions during a campaign.  There is really no indication from these statements that anything will be done.

Also, embryonic stem cell research has been restrained when using tax money, not in general.  Haven&#039;t there been so much other research done with stem cells from other viable means that have actually yeilded higher results for success?  In the 1970s the KGB had a propaganda war with us that really struck a blow in all of Europe.  The story was how Americans were breeding babies just to harvest organs, biological resources, and expirementation.  The picture had a large American nurse holding several children.  No matter how many times this was proven to be a fraudulent story, it was never put to rest.  This &quot;fact&quot; was decried in all of the Soviet Block and Europe as pure evil.  It is funny how much changes in 30 years.  Choose a more accessible means for stem cells.  Wouldn&#039;t it actually empower a mother to be able to SELL her umbilical cord?  They could use the money that is for certain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am happy that you are happy.</p>
<p>I am a techie.  The truth is I deal in ones and zeroes&#8230;logic statements.  To infer all the things that were inferred above and attribute them to &#8220;Change&#8221; is rather startling to me.  The first statement put forward about Mr. Obama is that he was asked 14 questions and his campaign got 14 responses written for him by other people.  He then handed it off and went to kiss more babies.  If the idea you are putting forward is &#8220;YES, but he is willing to reach out to advisors&#8230;&#8221; OK.  But that was for answers to questions during a campaign.  There is really no indication from these statements that anything will be done.</p>
<p>Also, embryonic stem cell research has been restrained when using tax money, not in general.  Haven&#8217;t there been so much other research done with stem cells from other viable means that have actually yeilded higher results for success?  In the 1970s the KGB had a propaganda war with us that really struck a blow in all of Europe.  The story was how Americans were breeding babies just to harvest organs, biological resources, and expirementation.  The picture had a large American nurse holding several children.  No matter how many times this was proven to be a fraudulent story, it was never put to rest.  This &#8220;fact&#8221; was decried in all of the Soviet Block and Europe as pure evil.  It is funny how much changes in 30 years.  Choose a more accessible means for stem cells.  Wouldn&#8217;t it actually empower a mother to be able to SELL her umbilical cord?  They could use the money that is for certain.</p>
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		<title>By: Giorgis</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/11/science-under-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-3379</link>
		<dc:creator>Giorgis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this is great news, I only hope he re-considers his stance against nuclear energy. I guess if he listens to his science advisors it should all come out in the wash</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this is great news, I only hope he re-considers his stance against nuclear energy. I guess if he listens to his science advisors it should all come out in the wash</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/11/science-under-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-3378</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now this. This is why I voted. This is awesome news indeed. My best wishes and all the luck imaginable to the Scientific Community! Science has been established as a core member of the &quot;We&quot; in &quot;Yes We Can,&quot; and there are billions out there who eagerly await what benefits it can provide.

Now, to quote a great scholar, Billy Madison: &quot;On with the chlorophyl!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now this. This is why I voted. This is awesome news indeed. My best wishes and all the luck imaginable to the Scientific Community! Science has been established as a core member of the &#8220;We&#8221; in &#8220;Yes We Can,&#8221; and there are billions out there who eagerly await what benefits it can provide.</p>
<p>Now, to quote a great scholar, Billy Madison: &#8220;On with the chlorophyl!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Stu Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/11/science-under-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-3353</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The agricultural industry continues to lobby very hard for ethanol. While, this is understandable, the (Union of Concerned Scientists)stated that &quot;when issues such as fertilizer use, energy for processing, and land use are taken into account, gallon for gallon, current production methods for corn ethanol could actually create more global warming pollution than today’s gasoline.&quot; In addition it takes more energy to produce a gallon of ethanol than is obtained from it&#039;s use.

Hopefully, more efficient and actually green forms of fuel will be pursued by President Obama. There are operational compressed air cars (Spain) as well as water powered vehicles (Japan) that would assist in decreasing dependency on oil, but the American public has no such technology available to them. Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The agricultural industry continues to lobby very hard for ethanol. While, this is understandable, the (Union of Concerned Scientists)stated that &#8220;when issues such as fertilizer use, energy for processing, and land use are taken into account, gallon for gallon, current production methods for corn ethanol could actually create more global warming pollution than today’s gasoline.&#8221; In addition it takes more energy to produce a gallon of ethanol than is obtained from it&#8217;s use.</p>
<p>Hopefully, more efficient and actually green forms of fuel will be pursued by President Obama. There are operational compressed air cars (Spain) as well as water powered vehicles (Japan) that would assist in decreasing dependency on oil, but the American public has no such technology available to them. Why?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Nichols</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/11/science-under-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-3326</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Nichols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good article.. here at The Global Medical Research Fund we were hoping for such a &quot;CHANGE&quot; as he recieved last night with this election.  Now that we have a President who is devoted to scientific research and evaluation, we can move this country forward instead of backwards.  Embryonic stem cell research should be made a national priority, and a Manhatten Project type program should be initiated immediately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good article.. here at The Global Medical Research Fund we were hoping for such a &#8220;CHANGE&#8221; as he recieved last night with this election.  Now that we have a President who is devoted to scientific research and evaluation, we can move this country forward instead of backwards.  Embryonic stem cell research should be made a national priority, and a Manhatten Project type program should be initiated immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Shore</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/11/science-under-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-3325</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Shore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article. While specific to addressing some interesting issues (Stem Cell and global warming), there are other overarching issues that are fascinating to me. One of those is how rather technical groups like the California Institute for Regenerative Medicine learns to work with other, more-or-less community-based groups who at the very least use core science when they try to work with the environmental realities of physical conditions that have biological connections. I wrote a grant proposal a year or so ago for a Latino drug and alcohol agency trying to get a foot in the door as they work with the generational (genetic and environmental) impacts of drug and alcohol use and abuse. The NIH through the application out because of disputes over the use of a computer username but we believe because they didn&#039;t want their showcase projects getting into the spotlight more than necessary. Anyway, I&#039;m working on an update of this project for consideration as a NIV Pioneer Award and would love to know if you have any advice ... assuming my logic and such makes any sense. 

Thanks.

Allan Shore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article. While specific to addressing some interesting issues (Stem Cell and global warming), there are other overarching issues that are fascinating to me. One of those is how rather technical groups like the California Institute for Regenerative Medicine learns to work with other, more-or-less community-based groups who at the very least use core science when they try to work with the environmental realities of physical conditions that have biological connections. I wrote a grant proposal a year or so ago for a Latino drug and alcohol agency trying to get a foot in the door as they work with the generational (genetic and environmental) impacts of drug and alcohol use and abuse. The NIH through the application out because of disputes over the use of a computer username but we believe because they didn&#8217;t want their showcase projects getting into the spotlight more than necessary. Anyway, I&#8217;m working on an update of this project for consideration as a NIV Pioneer Award and would love to know if you have any advice &#8230; assuming my logic and such makes any sense. </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Allan Shore</p>
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