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		<title>By: K.A. Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator>K.A. Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that Mellon has funded a project for university presses to collaborate on developing e-publication platform (http://chronicle.com/article/University-Presses-Can-Hang/47093/ Universities more generall and *faculty* need to be involved in collective and collaborative efforts if the publication of scholarship is going to take a form that enhances the advancement and sharing of knowledge and research, and not just enhance the financial condition of presses themselves. University presses haven&#039;t had the same resources available to them as commercial publishers have, so this sounds like it could be a step in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that Mellon has funded a project for university presses to collaborate on developing e-publication platform (<a href="http://chronicle.com/article/University-Presses-Can-Hang/47093/" rel="nofollow">http://chronicle.com/article/University-Presses-Can-Hang/47093/</a> Universities more generall and *faculty* need to be involved in collective and collaborative efforts if the publication of scholarship is going to take a form that enhances the advancement and sharing of knowledge and research, and not just enhance the financial condition of presses themselves. University presses haven&#8217;t had the same resources available to them as commercial publishers have, so this sounds like it could be a step in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: K.A. Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator>K.A. Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m assuming that Sandy Thatcher is the Sandy Thatcher, Director of Penn State University Press,  a knowledgeable person about publishing; here’s a link to his writings: http://www.psupress.org/news/SandyThatchersWritings.html.  I appreciate his perspective, but, I would like to respond to what he says are some inaccuracies in the essay. 

In the essay, I said, “Scholarly and research communities in the humanities and soft social sciences are well behind their peers in the hard sciences on open access and digital publishing in general.” Sandy cites the existence of Project Muse as evidence against this. A couple of things:  (1) Of course humanities scholars use things like Project Muse; (2) Project Muse is not free or open access; it is a subscription service; (3) Many humanities authors are unfamiliar with copyright and with what publication agreements bind them to; (4) In the humanities, in particular, but in the social sciences as well, there is considerably less organized and well-developed outlets for open access articles than there is in the sciences, although that is starting to change. By scholarly and research communities I meant to include not just publishers, but authors and researchers.

Whether an author of a journal article makes a great deal of money on the sale of an article if it is widely and repeatedly used (e.g., in course packs or in other forms) depends on the publishing agreement that the author made with the journal. While some journals agree to split some reuse fees and subsidiary use income with an author, many, at least in my experience, do not. The most recent publishing agreements with which I have been presented, for example, one from a commercial publisher of an academic journal provided for no such sharing of income from subsidiary uses. Moreover, “subsidiary uses” are changing dramatically – for example, a journal may sell an individual article online, or sell time-restricted access to an article online for $30 or more per article or viewing.  The question is, what should be the author’s share of such a revenue stream?

It is true that university presses are in a very different position from commercial publishers and perhaps that should have been made clearer in the essay. And it is true that much of scholarly publishing, particularly in the humanities – at least under  the traditional model of such publishing – cannot survive without subsidy, perhaps mooting a concern about income stream from such publications. But, I don’t think we know that; that is indeed, one of the points of the long  tail. Individual journal articles are now sold on-line, sold to for profit subscription services (such as Highbeam); individual book chapters can be sold on-line,  and so on. If there is going to be income from such sales, the question is, what is the author’s fair share of that income? With books, even if we grant that a university press needs to recoup “first copy” publication costs – and hence, the author has no share in the income from the first 300 copies of the sale of a book, that argument does not hold for stipulating that the author gets no income in *any* year from print sales or digital sales until for each year 300 copies in that form (print or digital) have been sold.  It is the latter to which I was specifically objecting when I said “until at least 300 copies of that form are sold *annually* does not give the author a fair share of the profit.” 

Now, to the extent that books are regarded as the “gold standard” for promotion and tenure, there may be pressure on university presses to publish books and monographs while at the same time experiencing declining revenue from such publications. Some of the costs of doing so may be reducible through digital media. For example, digital printing, e.g., short-run digital printing and print on demand, may allow a publisher to print fewer copies at a time, and thus overcome unused inventory expenses. Moreover, books could be sold without printing them at all, but as PDFs. If the idea of the long tail is that there is a small revenue stream every year, albeit diminishing presumably over time, rather than an initial revenue bump from library and scholars’ purchases when a book first comes out, then the contract I described in the previous paragraph virtually guarantees that a typical scholarly author (whose book will never sell in that volume in any given year) will never receive any of that income.  If there is going to be income, is that how it should be distributed (or not)? If the publisher has no inventory costs due to digital printing capabilities, then whatever income (after production costs) is generated through the long tail is simply profit.  Maybe the profit is so slim as to not be worth setting up mechanisms for sharing it with authors. But, the point is that publishing is changing and authors need to at least be part of the discussion as to what that new publishing paradigm should look like. 

On the issue of E-reserve, Sandy says, “With regard to e-reserve and other uses of works in universities, it is simply not true that the university has already paid for those uses by subscribing to a journal or otherwise purchasing it. Any reuse that results in the duplication of extra copies is not a right conveyed by purchase, under U.S. copyright law, unless it falls within the scope of ‘fair use.’”  The question is whether and if so, to what extent, copying for E-reserve constitutes fair use. And that is indeed a difficult issue and one which Sandy has written about, going back to the 70s.  But, that wasn’t my point. My point was that the work that appears in journals has been produced by researchers who have been paid by universities, not publishers. Universities then pay to buy the work of researchers that is published in journals when they purchase a journal or database subscription. If the university owns both a print version of a journal and databases in which the journal is also packaged, it may pay several times for the same content. Now, of course, for any one university almost all that it purchases has not been produced by the scholars at that one university, but universities collectively have paid for the knowledge production that the publishers are disseminating. Universities pay again in the form of reuse fees when they make a copy of an article to put on reserve for student use.  It seems to me that universities are subsidizing several times over the production and dissemination of such work, and  that scholarly authors and universities might be rethinking what it is they are subsizing. Collectively, they would have a lot of leverage if they chose to use it to advance their collective interest in having this structure work for them.

In one of his recent articles, Sandy argued that the above is an unfair characterization of the situation (“From the university presses – On the author’s addendum,” _Against the Grain_, June 2008, pp. 66-71). Rather than universities merely subsidizing publishers’ profit, Sandy argued that the fees that universities pay pay for a great deal of value added by publishers, value that is expensive to offer, such as sophisticated editorial management systems to facilitate the peer-review and production process, increasing efficiencies; use of XML coding to allow repurposing of the content, addition of digital object identifiers (DOIs) to permit cross-linking between citations and sources through CrossRef. In addition, publishers have trained staff who deal with the business matters connected with the collection of rights that fall within copyright (e.g., responding to requests for permission to reproduce an article in a coursepack, and to requests to use quotations that are lengthier than would be covered by “fair use”; dealing with translation rights and requests; and so on), such that publishers serve as author’s agents for these purposes.  

It may be true that there is value added by publishers and that much of what publishers do is not something  that either universities or individual authors are themselves prepared to do.  However, it seems to me that there is tremendous duplication, redundancy and then incompatibility between systems produced by publishers, and that in so far as much of this enables publishers to keep material behind the subscription wall, it thwarts rather than facilitates dissemination in a rational and fair manner. It is not clear to me that, at least for the most part, publishers are serving as *authors’* agents as far as copyright goes. And while it is true that most academic authors are not dependent on royalties to make a living, that doesn’t mean they don’t have an interest in receiving a fair share of what revenue there is to be had. As things are currently structured most publishers are interested in securing their own rights to future income and control over the information that they are entrusted with disseminating. Publishers may indeed have legitimate interests here, but so do authors. And for the most part, academic authors in the humanities and social sciences have not been as actively involved in helping to reshape the publishing landscape as I am suggesting they should be.

It seems to me that authors themselves need to become actively and centrally involved in the processes by which publishing is being reshaped, and not leave it only up to publishers. Perhaps something like SCOAP is suggestive of alliances that researchers and scholars, universities and  publishers could make for a rational and fair structure to the production and dissemination of knowledge. Perhaps some form of open access is a solution, although I’m not sure about a “gift economy.” For, there is work involved in producing knowledge and costs to disseminating it and I’m not sure if all knowledge production should be available for “free”.  So, I don’t know what the right configuration of interests should look like. But, my main point is that individual authors and scholars in the humanities and social sciences need to be involved in the discussion of these issues and in shaping the policies and structures which will control the dissemination of  their work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m assuming that Sandy Thatcher is the Sandy Thatcher, Director of Penn State University Press,  a knowledgeable person about publishing; here’s a link to his writings: <a href="http://www.psupress.org/news/SandyThatchersWritings.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.psupress.org/news/SandyThatchersWritings.html</a>.  I appreciate his perspective, but, I would like to respond to what he says are some inaccuracies in the essay. </p>
<p>In the essay, I said, “Scholarly and research communities in the humanities and soft social sciences are well behind their peers in the hard sciences on open access and digital publishing in general.” Sandy cites the existence of Project Muse as evidence against this. A couple of things:  (1) Of course humanities scholars use things like Project Muse; (2) Project Muse is not free or open access; it is a subscription service; (3) Many humanities authors are unfamiliar with copyright and with what publication agreements bind them to; (4) In the humanities, in particular, but in the social sciences as well, there is considerably less organized and well-developed outlets for open access articles than there is in the sciences, although that is starting to change. By scholarly and research communities I meant to include not just publishers, but authors and researchers.</p>
<p>Whether an author of a journal article makes a great deal of money on the sale of an article if it is widely and repeatedly used (e.g., in course packs or in other forms) depends on the publishing agreement that the author made with the journal. While some journals agree to split some reuse fees and subsidiary use income with an author, many, at least in my experience, do not. The most recent publishing agreements with which I have been presented, for example, one from a commercial publisher of an academic journal provided for no such sharing of income from subsidiary uses. Moreover, “subsidiary uses” are changing dramatically – for example, a journal may sell an individual article online, or sell time-restricted access to an article online for $30 or more per article or viewing.  The question is, what should be the author’s share of such a revenue stream?</p>
<p>It is true that university presses are in a very different position from commercial publishers and perhaps that should have been made clearer in the essay. And it is true that much of scholarly publishing, particularly in the humanities – at least under  the traditional model of such publishing – cannot survive without subsidy, perhaps mooting a concern about income stream from such publications. But, I don’t think we know that; that is indeed, one of the points of the long  tail. Individual journal articles are now sold on-line, sold to for profit subscription services (such as Highbeam); individual book chapters can be sold on-line,  and so on. If there is going to be income from such sales, the question is, what is the author’s fair share of that income? With books, even if we grant that a university press needs to recoup “first copy” publication costs – and hence, the author has no share in the income from the first 300 copies of the sale of a book, that argument does not hold for stipulating that the author gets no income in *any* year from print sales or digital sales until for each year 300 copies in that form (print or digital) have been sold.  It is the latter to which I was specifically objecting when I said “until at least 300 copies of that form are sold *annually* does not give the author a fair share of the profit.” </p>
<p>Now, to the extent that books are regarded as the “gold standard” for promotion and tenure, there may be pressure on university presses to publish books and monographs while at the same time experiencing declining revenue from such publications. Some of the costs of doing so may be reducible through digital media. For example, digital printing, e.g., short-run digital printing and print on demand, may allow a publisher to print fewer copies at a time, and thus overcome unused inventory expenses. Moreover, books could be sold without printing them at all, but as PDFs. If the idea of the long tail is that there is a small revenue stream every year, albeit diminishing presumably over time, rather than an initial revenue bump from library and scholars’ purchases when a book first comes out, then the contract I described in the previous paragraph virtually guarantees that a typical scholarly author (whose book will never sell in that volume in any given year) will never receive any of that income.  If there is going to be income, is that how it should be distributed (or not)? If the publisher has no inventory costs due to digital printing capabilities, then whatever income (after production costs) is generated through the long tail is simply profit.  Maybe the profit is so slim as to not be worth setting up mechanisms for sharing it with authors. But, the point is that publishing is changing and authors need to at least be part of the discussion as to what that new publishing paradigm should look like. </p>
<p>On the issue of E-reserve, Sandy says, “With regard to e-reserve and other uses of works in universities, it is simply not true that the university has already paid for those uses by subscribing to a journal or otherwise purchasing it. Any reuse that results in the duplication of extra copies is not a right conveyed by purchase, under U.S. copyright law, unless it falls within the scope of ‘fair use.’”  The question is whether and if so, to what extent, copying for E-reserve constitutes fair use. And that is indeed a difficult issue and one which Sandy has written about, going back to the 70s.  But, that wasn’t my point. My point was that the work that appears in journals has been produced by researchers who have been paid by universities, not publishers. Universities then pay to buy the work of researchers that is published in journals when they purchase a journal or database subscription. If the university owns both a print version of a journal and databases in which the journal is also packaged, it may pay several times for the same content. Now, of course, for any one university almost all that it purchases has not been produced by the scholars at that one university, but universities collectively have paid for the knowledge production that the publishers are disseminating. Universities pay again in the form of reuse fees when they make a copy of an article to put on reserve for student use.  It seems to me that universities are subsidizing several times over the production and dissemination of such work, and  that scholarly authors and universities might be rethinking what it is they are subsizing. Collectively, they would have a lot of leverage if they chose to use it to advance their collective interest in having this structure work for them.</p>
<p>In one of his recent articles, Sandy argued that the above is an unfair characterization of the situation (“From the university presses – On the author’s addendum,” _Against the Grain_, June 2008, pp. 66-71). Rather than universities merely subsidizing publishers’ profit, Sandy argued that the fees that universities pay pay for a great deal of value added by publishers, value that is expensive to offer, such as sophisticated editorial management systems to facilitate the peer-review and production process, increasing efficiencies; use of XML coding to allow repurposing of the content, addition of digital object identifiers (DOIs) to permit cross-linking between citations and sources through CrossRef. In addition, publishers have trained staff who deal with the business matters connected with the collection of rights that fall within copyright (e.g., responding to requests for permission to reproduce an article in a coursepack, and to requests to use quotations that are lengthier than would be covered by “fair use”; dealing with translation rights and requests; and so on), such that publishers serve as author’s agents for these purposes.  </p>
<p>It may be true that there is value added by publishers and that much of what publishers do is not something  that either universities or individual authors are themselves prepared to do.  However, it seems to me that there is tremendous duplication, redundancy and then incompatibility between systems produced by publishers, and that in so far as much of this enables publishers to keep material behind the subscription wall, it thwarts rather than facilitates dissemination in a rational and fair manner. It is not clear to me that, at least for the most part, publishers are serving as *authors’* agents as far as copyright goes. And while it is true that most academic authors are not dependent on royalties to make a living, that doesn’t mean they don’t have an interest in receiving a fair share of what revenue there is to be had. As things are currently structured most publishers are interested in securing their own rights to future income and control over the information that they are entrusted with disseminating. Publishers may indeed have legitimate interests here, but so do authors. And for the most part, academic authors in the humanities and social sciences have not been as actively involved in helping to reshape the publishing landscape as I am suggesting they should be.</p>
<p>It seems to me that authors themselves need to become actively and centrally involved in the processes by which publishing is being reshaped, and not leave it only up to publishers. Perhaps something like SCOAP is suggestive of alliances that researchers and scholars, universities and  publishers could make for a rational and fair structure to the production and dissemination of knowledge. Perhaps some form of open access is a solution, although I’m not sure about a “gift economy.” For, there is work involved in producing knowledge and costs to disseminating it and I’m not sure if all knowledge production should be available for “free”.  So, I don’t know what the right configuration of interests should look like. But, my main point is that individual authors and scholars in the humanities and social sciences need to be involved in the discussion of these issues and in shaping the policies and structures which will control the dissemination of  their work.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Thatcher</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/04/marketing-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-4015</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy Thatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Sarah McCleskey that &quot;academics need education,&quot; but it depends on how accurate the education is. While Professor Wallace&#039;s article conveys some useful and correction information, its overall value is undermined by some false or misleading assertions. Consider this claim: &quot;Scholarly and research communities in the humanities and soft social sciences are well behind their peers in the hard sciences on open access and digital publishing in general.&quot; Perhaps true as a very broad generalization, but the existence of Project Muse (an electronic database with now over 400 journals in the humanities from university presses and other non-profit publishers and over 1,300 institutional subscribers worldwide) since 1995 makes this claim patently untrue for the humanities journal sector. The &quot;long tail&quot; has been exploited by university presses at least since Google started its Book Search project, and most presses now have most of their backlist titles digitized and available for purchase via &quot;print on demand&quot; vendors through regular bookstores as well as online retailers like Amazon. While it is true that most academic authors publish for reasons other than monetary return, some make a great deal of money on the sales of their books, and some authors even of journal articles do, too, if they are widely and repeatedly used in coursepacks. And every press that publishes journals that I am know shares income from subsidiary uses, usually 50/50, with authors. So this statement is completely false: &quot;If an author has signed a standard exclusive and restrictive academic publishing agreement, and if a work unexpectedly &#039;sells,&#039; the profit will go exclusively to the publisher and the licensing fees will be collected exclusively by the publisher.&quot; If we all move toward &quot;open access,&quot; which may be worth doing on general grounds of the greater public good, some academic authors at least will be sacrificing  many thousands of dollars. Prof. Wallace seems to think every academic publisher is in the business for profit: &quot;Whether academic or commercial, the publisher’s main interest, just like that of the Hollywood studio’s, or any media entity’s, is in profit; for the publisher, maintaining control over and asserting copyright is a means to profit.&quot; That is simply not true for university presses; in fact, any surpluses presses make are reinvested in their business or else appropriated by their parent universities and used for other purposes. And most presses do not have any surpluses at all but are subsidized by their parent universities (on the average, by about 10% of their operating costs). The following statement contains many errors of fact: &quot;Whether the interest is profit or dissemination, academic authors need to stop signing restrictive publishing agreements. First, if there is profit to be had, academic authors should have a fair share of it. An academic publishing contract which stipulates that an author collects no share of the sales in each form (e.g., print or digital) until at least 300 copies of that form are sold annually does not give the author a fair share of the profit. There is no extra cost to the publisher annually; once produced, the sale of a digital product is almost entirely profit; similarly for print copies if print on demand is well-established. Second, for purposes of dissemination, authors may be poorly served by a standard restrictive publishing agreement which grants publication and distribution rights exclusively to the publisher. If a publisher decides to not distribute or &#039;print&#039; the work, the author may have little or no avenue for having her or his work distributed.&quot; Some contract for some monographs, it is true, do not offer a royalty until a certain number of copies have been sold. But Wallace&#039;s description, which only discusses marginal costs, completely ignores the publisher&#039;s need to recoup &quot;first copy&quot; publication costs. Often the need not to offer a royalty on a certain number of copies is prompted by the importance of being able to keep the price at a certain level, to encourage individual purchase or course adoption. The second claim is belied by the nature of publishing contracts, which all contain clauses obligating the press to publish the work in a certain format within a certain period of time, failing which the author may reclaim the rights to the work; and they also define a period of time after which an author may recover all rights once a book goes &quot;out of print&quot; as defined in the contract. With regard to e-reserve and other uses of works in universities, it is simply not true that the university has already paid for those uses by subscribing to a journal or otherwise purchasing it. Any reuse that results in the duplication of extra copies is not a right conveyed by purchase, under U.S. copyright law, unless it falls within the scope of &quot;fair use.&quot; And we will all see what the outcome of the suit against Georgia State University is--although the state of Georgia relies on a very idiosyncratic interpretation of &quot;fair use&quot; that derives from the writings of the late L. Ray Patterson, a former law professor at the University of Georgia, a view not shared by most experts in the field. While I completely agree on the need for more education for academics, then, I would hope that the education given them is more accurate than what appears in this article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Sarah McCleskey that &#8220;academics need education,&#8221; but it depends on how accurate the education is. While Professor Wallace&#8217;s article conveys some useful and correction information, its overall value is undermined by some false or misleading assertions. Consider this claim: &#8220;Scholarly and research communities in the humanities and soft social sciences are well behind their peers in the hard sciences on open access and digital publishing in general.&#8221; Perhaps true as a very broad generalization, but the existence of Project Muse (an electronic database with now over 400 journals in the humanities from university presses and other non-profit publishers and over 1,300 institutional subscribers worldwide) since 1995 makes this claim patently untrue for the humanities journal sector. The &#8220;long tail&#8221; has been exploited by university presses at least since Google started its Book Search project, and most presses now have most of their backlist titles digitized and available for purchase via &#8220;print on demand&#8221; vendors through regular bookstores as well as online retailers like Amazon. While it is true that most academic authors publish for reasons other than monetary return, some make a great deal of money on the sales of their books, and some authors even of journal articles do, too, if they are widely and repeatedly used in coursepacks. And every press that publishes journals that I am know shares income from subsidiary uses, usually 50/50, with authors. So this statement is completely false: &#8220;If an author has signed a standard exclusive and restrictive academic publishing agreement, and if a work unexpectedly &#8217;sells,&#8217; the profit will go exclusively to the publisher and the licensing fees will be collected exclusively by the publisher.&#8221; If we all move toward &#8220;open access,&#8221; which may be worth doing on general grounds of the greater public good, some academic authors at least will be sacrificing  many thousands of dollars. Prof. Wallace seems to think every academic publisher is in the business for profit: &#8220;Whether academic or commercial, the publisher’s main interest, just like that of the Hollywood studio’s, or any media entity’s, is in profit; for the publisher, maintaining control over and asserting copyright is a means to profit.&#8221; That is simply not true for university presses; in fact, any surpluses presses make are reinvested in their business or else appropriated by their parent universities and used for other purposes. And most presses do not have any surpluses at all but are subsidized by their parent universities (on the average, by about 10% of their operating costs). The following statement contains many errors of fact: &#8220;Whether the interest is profit or dissemination, academic authors need to stop signing restrictive publishing agreements. First, if there is profit to be had, academic authors should have a fair share of it. An academic publishing contract which stipulates that an author collects no share of the sales in each form (e.g., print or digital) until at least 300 copies of that form are sold annually does not give the author a fair share of the profit. There is no extra cost to the publisher annually; once produced, the sale of a digital product is almost entirely profit; similarly for print copies if print on demand is well-established. Second, for purposes of dissemination, authors may be poorly served by a standard restrictive publishing agreement which grants publication and distribution rights exclusively to the publisher. If a publisher decides to not distribute or &#8216;print&#8217; the work, the author may have little or no avenue for having her or his work distributed.&#8221; Some contract for some monographs, it is true, do not offer a royalty until a certain number of copies have been sold. But Wallace&#8217;s description, which only discusses marginal costs, completely ignores the publisher&#8217;s need to recoup &#8220;first copy&#8221; publication costs. Often the need not to offer a royalty on a certain number of copies is prompted by the importance of being able to keep the price at a certain level, to encourage individual purchase or course adoption. The second claim is belied by the nature of publishing contracts, which all contain clauses obligating the press to publish the work in a certain format within a certain period of time, failing which the author may reclaim the rights to the work; and they also define a period of time after which an author may recover all rights once a book goes &#8220;out of print&#8221; as defined in the contract. With regard to e-reserve and other uses of works in universities, it is simply not true that the university has already paid for those uses by subscribing to a journal or otherwise purchasing it. Any reuse that results in the duplication of extra copies is not a right conveyed by purchase, under U.S. copyright law, unless it falls within the scope of &#8220;fair use.&#8221; And we will all see what the outcome of the suit against Georgia State University is&#8211;although the state of Georgia relies on a very idiosyncratic interpretation of &#8220;fair use&#8221; that derives from the writings of the late L. Ray Patterson, a former law professor at the University of Georgia, a view not shared by most experts in the field. While I completely agree on the need for more education for academics, then, I would hope that the education given them is more accurate than what appears in this article.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan K. O'Rourke</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/04/marketing-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-2802</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan K. O'Rourke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I failed to mention Zane&#039;s comments are on point. As with many industries, institutions and organizations the tipping point rapidly approaches.</description>
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		<title>By: Bryan K. O'Rourke</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/04/marketing-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-2801</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan K. O'Rourke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your writing and eloquent emphasis on the paradigm shift relating to digital content is so relevant. From my artist daughter to every professional I engage with, failing to take ownership of the issue of ownership in the new world will continue to propel old paradigms at the cost of much greater good - the sharing of ideas and the education of an ever expanding world under a set of new rules not governed exclusively by institutions of old. Thank you for an excellent article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your writing and eloquent emphasis on the paradigm shift relating to digital content is so relevant. From my artist daughter to every professional I engage with, failing to take ownership of the issue of ownership in the new world will continue to propel old paradigms at the cost of much greater good &#8211; the sharing of ideas and the education of an ever expanding world under a set of new rules not governed exclusively by institutions of old. Thank you for an excellent article.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah McCleskey</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/04/marketing-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-1728</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah McCleskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The strong market for permissions through venues such as CCC has eroded fair use in academia in the United States.  The current lawsuit filed by Oxford UP, Cambridge UP, and Sage Publications against Georgia State University should give us a legal precedent for the definition of fair use in the digital environment.  As long as academic authors continue to sign away rights to their own work, publishers will fight for their rights as owners of this literature.  Academics need education about the open-access movement, Creative Commons licensing, and rights retention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The strong market for permissions through venues such as CCC has eroded fair use in academia in the United States.  The current lawsuit filed by Oxford UP, Cambridge UP, and Sage Publications against Georgia State University should give us a legal precedent for the definition of fair use in the digital environment.  As long as academic authors continue to sign away rights to their own work, publishers will fight for their rights as owners of this literature.  Academics need education about the open-access movement, Creative Commons licensing, and rights retention.</p>
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		<title>By: Zane Selvans</title>
		<link>http://www.scienceprogress.org/2008/04/marketing-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-1613</link>
		<dc:creator>Zane Selvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I for one believe the current academic publishing industry is unstable.  Nobody who participates in it really has a fundamental motivation to maintain it, other than the publishing companies themselves, and they are slowly being cut out of the loop.  We write the articles, we review the articles, and generally the taxpayer pays for the research - why should Elsevier, or any other publishing company, be making any money off of it?  The organizational work that they once did can now easily be done (and is being done) via well designed web applications.  The only thing that props the publishers up is the fact that, for now, some of them are more prestigious than their open access counterparts.  Eventually the tipping point will come, and the industry will collapse, and the world&#039;s academic literature will be forever after free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for one believe the current academic publishing industry is unstable.  Nobody who participates in it really has a fundamental motivation to maintain it, other than the publishing companies themselves, and they are slowly being cut out of the loop.  We write the articles, we review the articles, and generally the taxpayer pays for the research &#8211; why should Elsevier, or any other publishing company, be making any money off of it?  The organizational work that they once did can now easily be done (and is being done) via well designed web applications.  The only thing that props the publishers up is the fact that, for now, some of them are more prestigious than their open access counterparts.  Eventually the tipping point will come, and the industry will collapse, and the world&#8217;s academic literature will be forever after free.</p>
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